I’m a little surprised along this entire journey, no one reported that Imran Chaudhri paid to have a Wikipedia article written about him and his many patents to bolster his reputation years before Humane became relevant.
I disagree with the premise that these are the "red flags" that should be avoided.
-Claiming credibility through patents
-Manufacturing hype before manufacturing products
-Pitching products via a TED talk
-Having no plan for inevitable electronic waste
These are definitely red flags, but how often do we see this sort of thing.
-Paying editors to create Wikipedia articles about you
-Pivoting the product to AI, even before shipping
What the author misses is that you need to sell a product, and pre-product, you need to sell that YOU are the person to do it.
That is why Imran promotes his patents, or people talk about their PhD, etc. Nobody would have believed what he was saying without those patents. Ok, maybe if he was a Stanford drop-out, but if neither of those things..... ;)
How do we differentiate "manufacturing hype" vs "promoting a vision"? Though, when it came down to it, the vision was a vision of smoke, but we can't suggest to founders that we don't "promote a vision". Otherwise, what are employees, investors, and future customers buying into?
TED is becoming such a cliche, but I think this comment is suggesting not marketing, which is what TED is. A marketing channel, which (used to) provide a level of credibility.
Who says Humane didn't have a plan for electronic waste? They didn't talk about it, and maybe they should have. We're building hardware, and though we probably won't promote how we deal with electronic waste, we may talk about how we've focused on making our product easily refurbishable and environmentally friendly, but I doubt many people are going to even care. Do you see how many people use take away coffee cups EVERYDAY!!!
In the end, I don't think Humane really matters at all. The only people who got hurt where the VCs, and by the look of the buy-out, just barely. I'm assuming they were paying top dollar for talent in the Bay Area, and those people won't get any return on their equity, but that could have happened at any start-up where they may not have been paid as well.
The public doesn't care about Humane. The only reason it is being mentioned at all is because they were able to build some publicity.
Humane (Or Red Flags to Spot for Next Time)
(lmnt.me)35 points by mantia 20 February 2025 | 12 comments
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-Claiming credibility through patents -Manufacturing hype before manufacturing products -Pitching products via a TED talk -Having no plan for inevitable electronic waste
These are definitely red flags, but how often do we see this sort of thing. -Paying editors to create Wikipedia articles about you -Pivoting the product to AI, even before shipping
What the author misses is that you need to sell a product, and pre-product, you need to sell that YOU are the person to do it.
That is why Imran promotes his patents, or people talk about their PhD, etc. Nobody would have believed what he was saying without those patents. Ok, maybe if he was a Stanford drop-out, but if neither of those things..... ;)
How do we differentiate "manufacturing hype" vs "promoting a vision"? Though, when it came down to it, the vision was a vision of smoke, but we can't suggest to founders that we don't "promote a vision". Otherwise, what are employees, investors, and future customers buying into?
TED is becoming such a cliche, but I think this comment is suggesting not marketing, which is what TED is. A marketing channel, which (used to) provide a level of credibility.
Who says Humane didn't have a plan for electronic waste? They didn't talk about it, and maybe they should have. We're building hardware, and though we probably won't promote how we deal with electronic waste, we may talk about how we've focused on making our product easily refurbishable and environmentally friendly, but I doubt many people are going to even care. Do you see how many people use take away coffee cups EVERYDAY!!!
In the end, I don't think Humane really matters at all. The only people who got hurt where the VCs, and by the look of the buy-out, just barely. I'm assuming they were paying top dollar for talent in the Bay Area, and those people won't get any return on their equity, but that could have happened at any start-up where they may not have been paid as well.
The public doesn't care about Humane. The only reason it is being mentioned at all is because they were able to build some publicity.