Cool! I’ve recently consolidated all of my Google Chat and WhatsApp friends onto Matrix (via Element) because it’s E2EE. Gchat isn’t and I assume that Meta has a backdoor into WhatsApp conversations. So, those platforms can’t be trusted. Signal doesn’t have a web interface, so that’s a no-go for me. lol Telegram.
Matrix has been great for me and I recommend that everyone else use it!
I set firefox to clear cookies, also using cookies to "strict"
This somehow causes a huge pain to connect to mozilla's matrix instance, and I never understood why. This is a bit ironic since firefox has that feature to clear cookies.
I had to reset password, and do other weird things, I can't remember what exactly.
I vaguely remember an old MSC or TWIM or something that described (the possibility of) a new authentication mechanism whereby I could set up either a dummy homeserver or something in .well_known that would allow me to use my own domain but without needing to use my own homeserver for the actual traffic. Sort of like an auth-only homeserver, if you will.
Is that part of MAS? Was that initiative ever fully-baked? Or am I just misremembering?
This sounds great for large and corporate servers, but a pain for small self-hosted ones. More configuration and external dependencies. Plus additional confusion for non-techy users on those smaller servers.
I quickly looked at the MSCs and seems “MAS” and associated MSCs enable OIDC/OAUTH authentication flows (basically integration with your favorite identity provider such as Google or Apple).
I was hoping for matrix homeserver to act as an identity provider as well to give us an alternative to big tech for “identity”.
I suppose I could just setup Ory or other open source IdP, but would have been nice to have an all in one package.
Discord's ongoing enshittification may create a market opportunity for alternatives in the near future. I'd like to think that Matrix could be a beneficiary of that, but the common-case UX needs to be polished damn well when the time comes if they want to capitalize.
Matrix.org Will Migrate to MAS
(matrix.org)198 points by LorenDB 2 April 2025 | 153 comments
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Matrix has been great for me and I recommend that everyone else use it!
This somehow causes a huge pain to connect to mozilla's matrix instance, and I never understood why. This is a bit ironic since firefox has that feature to clear cookies.
I had to reset password, and do other weird things, I can't remember what exactly.
I hope this MAS thing fixes it.
Is that part of MAS? Was that initiative ever fully-baked? Or am I just misremembering?
Mostly a desktop/web user myself, hoping all that Element X work will trickle down to us.
* Do all the Matrix clients need to be modified to support this authentication method?
So. . . how will we log in? This post is heavy on vague promises of greatness but light on concrete details of UX.
I was hoping for matrix homeserver to act as an identity provider as well to give us an alternative to big tech for “identity”.
I suppose I could just setup Ory or other open source IdP, but would have been nice to have an all in one package.