macOS Tahoe brings a new disk image format

(eclecticlight.co)

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moondev 12 June 2025
https://developer.apple.com/documentation/virtualization/vzd...

I guess this is the Apple version of qcow2 and friends

layer8 21 hours ago
“Asif” is a fun name for a disk image format. It’s as-if it was a real disk. ;)
AnonC 22 hours ago
I skimmed through the article, but I have a question that I hope someone can answer. I have a sparse disk image created on a NAS (which runs Linux), and I use it to backup some stuff (not a VM) from the Mac in the native format (the macOS APFS file system).

Would this new format, ASIF, make this faster and better whenever I switch to macOS Tahoe? I hope there wouldn’t be any gotchas with respect to storing this disk image on a NAS.

tayiorrobinson 20 hours ago
The benchmarks are weird to me - the ASIF tests were done on M3/4, but for everything else it was done on an M1?
bigyabai 12 June 2025
My kingdom for a documented disk image format.
benguillet 22 hours ago
Would that potentially speed up Docker for Mac and others? (since it's using a vm underneath). That would address a major pain point
cyberflame 22 hours ago
Oh awesome! So it's more virtualisation-focused as opposed to HFS+ --> APFS migration?
bowsamic 12 June 2025
My favourite blog specifically for the painting articles
archagon 21 hours ago
What blew my mind recently was that I could store an APFS sparsebundle on a NAS drive, then mount it over NFS and use it as a plain old APFS volume. Despite the filesystem layering, it works pretty much like a local volume, albeit with a bit of performance degradation. Seems preferable to something like iSCSI for using APFS with network storage.

Perhaps this new format would work even better?

crest 21 hours ago
Has anyone found the specification for the format?
pbronez 12 June 2025
Any chance this will reduce the space needed for major OS updates? Those have always been desperately inefficient.
frizlab 23 hours ago
I have a meta question not directly related to the article but more about HN itself. I posted this exact link 9h before this submission was posted[1]. How is it possible that there is a new entry for the submission given the link is the same?

[1]https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=eclecticlight.co

lucasoshiro 12 June 2025
Nice. But I would like it better if the effort was to support ext4, BtrFS, NTFS and other popular filesystems from the Linux and Windows world...
ThePowerOfFuet 21 hours ago
Was this not already a solved problem? Why reinvent the wheel other than for vendor lockin?
henry700 12 June 2025
It's a shame that every new cool product/dataformat/cable/cpu/whatever researched by Apple has very little (or no) public documentation. Sure, there are lots of hackers who can test and reverse engineer those pretty quickly, but it's just unnecessary work. I don't know why Apple is so revered in hacker circles, to be honest. Not even Microsoft does this shit anymore, they're open sourcing a lot of research this decade, but they're still seen with extreme distrust. Whereas Apple was always secretive and used underhanded tactics, but it is still loved.
ChrisMarshallNY 23 hours ago
Doesn’t sound particularly useful, if you aren’t setting up containers.
srameshc 12 June 2025
I hope they did something to not load my hard drive with all the AI crap and steal the storage.