Finding the best dog treat with statistics

(wespiser.com)

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gwern 21 hours ago
One thing I'm not following is how the side/order bias is being handled. OP measures a IMO very large bias towards left-hand treats, but it is unclear how that is handled (ahem)? Skimming https://github.com/adamwespiser/best-dog-treat/blame/main/an... doesn't help me understand if it is being modeled as a covariate to adjust for the bias or if it was dealt with by construction (eg. by always offering pairs twice, swapping hands), or what?

Incidentally OP if you want to make it more adaptive, you can just fit the B-T model each time, and grab a posterior sample of what the best pair is, and test that, which turns out to be Thompson sampling. I did this for fun with blind taste-testing of mineral waters: https://gwern.net/water

andrew_eu 1 hour ago
I love it. For years with my old dog I would give him a binary choice between two treats and intuitively got a sense of his favorites as well. More satisfying to me was giving him the choice, which (maybe I'm over personifying him) I think he liked to pick his favorite. He had stomach issues which limited him to really only a few types of treats, and it was obvious which were his favorites, but it was fun anyway. I miss that dog.
rkagerer 1 hour ago
The same time every day, around 11pm, I go to the kitchen, select two different treats, say the word “choice”, and present the treats in either hand, allowing Bebop to only take one... By the time the experiment started, Bebop was used to the routine and sniffing both treats before taking one.

Winner was Pur Luv Chicken, closely followed by MON2SUN duck + rawhide. Greenies and Pork Chomps fared poorly.

jnellis 21 hours ago
My dog's favorite treat is the most expensive one. Or the one that causes the most intestinal (and therefore cleanup) issues. All it takes is a pause and some brief math to see that a lot of (good for your dog) dog treats are $16/lb. That's not even remotely the most expensive. It's cheaper to feed them straight meat. I've resorted to making my own treats. It's like $4/lb, plus you know exactly what goes into it (mostly ground turkey, yams, rice/chickpea flour).
abofh 17 hours ago
This just feels like an excuse to give your dog a statically significant amount of treats
CM30 22 June 2026
This makes me wonder what the research is for whether certain types or breeds of dog prefer certain dog treats, and how individual dogs might develop a preference for one kind over another. Based on this experiment it doesn't seem like the type of meat matters much, since while the top ranked treat is chicken, his second favourite seems to be the duck one.
wespiser_2018 22 June 2026
Author here: I did a quick experiment with my Greyhound, Bebop, to figure out the treat he prefers best using pair-wise comparison analyzed with the Bradley-Terry model. Same tech as Elo scores in chess, and several other places! Enjoy!
zerobees 19 hours ago
In my experience, it's usually a partly-rotten deer leg found in the bushes on a nature walk.
RataNova 1 hour ago
Even in a simple setup with one dog and five treats, the measurement process can still sneak into the result
thih9 22 June 2026
My dog told me to write that the set of treats is missing non bleached rawhide, other dehydrated meats (eg rabbit, goat, fish), animal parts (eg ears), and vegetables. Also, he volunteers.
buildsjets 22 June 2026
The best dog treat is always the treat the OTHER dog is eating.
lijok 22 June 2026
Bebop is clearly being paid off by Big Chicken to skew the results
pike00 22 hours ago
Interesting read! I might replicate with my two whippets. What’s their inter-rater reliability?

You also should continue with a swap of the hands; randomize which one is in the left and record the results to see if the left bias is real

doglover737484 22 June 2026
Add some interesting smells and dogs will eat absolutely anything.

Used tampons, literal shit, soiled underwear, dierhia, dead bird, freshly killed cat, they owners... It is basically a pig with collar that lives in your house.

dieselgate 23 hours ago
Our Malinois really liked the dehydrated chicken too, currently finishing a bag of the Trader Joes organic chicken jerky sticks. Interesting idea for some experiments, thanks for sharing
dice 22 June 2026
I missed the word "Treat" in the title initially and I was incensed. All dogs are the best dog TYVM.
FrankenDino 22 hours ago
You should really try Growlers dog bones.

https://growlersdogbones.org/

democracy 17 hours ago
nothing beats diy dehydrated turkey mince stripes... but pita to make them )))
pnw 22 June 2026
Beautiful hound!