Jev introduces a new shape of LLM

(simonwillison.net)

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Mumps 33 minutes ago
This is off topic.

Do people not feel like LLM speak (Claudisms) is infecting their own diction? Saying 'a new "shape" of LLM' sits so very poorly.

tipsytoad 2 hours ago
I’m not sure I understand the hype around this model. Isn’t this just an llm with a chat template, with the options prefix cached?

  <option>option A</option> <option>option B</option><endofoptions>userprompt<eos>
Then the llm is constrained to a few special tokens indicating the possibilities? e.g. <option1> <option2>
aszen 3 hours ago
About jev being a black box and the potential for bias, I think it boils down to what questions you are asking the model.

Broad questions like Is this resume good / score this city will ofcourse be biased but I think jev encourages more granular focused questions like Score this candidates Python experience / Rate this city for its food which then allows you to introduce your own biases in which questions you ask and how you combine their answers.

In this way I think jev like models can be easier to reason about for critical decisions.

hresvelgr 2 hours ago
I think "Black boxes are back in fashion" is missing the point. I think LLMs are still largely black boxes, and I don't think chain of thought is representative of any degree of inner machination. Asking it questions to justify itself is at best a facsimile, and for the most part it's useful, but it's fundamentally a facsimile.

Where I understand Jev to be a significant jump is that afaik the confidence scoring is actually derived from the normalised probabilities, and not a continuation in a chain of prediction masquerading as "confidence."

faragon 2 hours ago
Is it 100% deterministic?